On one level, this is a great advertisement for aikido’s effect on personality if not fighting ability. Having said that, the MMA guy is equally respectful. Constant investment in loss seems to grind the ego down rather effectively. Question: would a Tomiki or Yoshinkan Aikido guy do better? Probably, but not much. Makes me think, perhaps Aikido and Taiji share a similar evolutionary history: its possible they both started as weapons arts (certainly the case with Aikido) and the unarmed aspect only makes sense as a last ditch set of techniques intended to defend against an armed opponent?
Sometimes it’s easy to forget that Chinese martial arts have a modern, sporting aspect… and fearsome it is too. Here’s a nice nine minute intro to the training and basic techniques of Sanda, with a little added Brazilian ‘chute boxe’ flavour….
MMA fighter Xu Xiao Dong really stirred things up when he beat down Tai Chi ‘master’ Wei Lei. Now Lü Baochun, a normally mild- mannered Baji Quan and Chen Taiji teacher (and erstwhile challenge-taker for Feng Zhiqiang) has taken the unusual step of airing his views on the match and what it means for Chinese martial arts .
1) Chinese martial arts is truly on its last breath and only something like this can help resuscitate it. That’s why this video and the fight in it is a very good thing. Chinese martial arts need to be violently shocked into waking up. Whoever does this is doing CMA a big favour. Direct quote from Master Lü: “The fight itself and who is fighting or who wins or loses is not important. What is important is that they are talking about CMA. It’s good because they are forcing it to wake up. If it doesn’t wake up, it will die.”
2) CMA started going downhill 30-40 years ago. Before that the principle said that when talking about fighting you should “talk with your fists”, not only wth your mouth. Now almost everybody (99%) of CMA have small fists and big mouths. It’s good that somebody shows up and shuts them up. “There is a time for talking but there should be a balance between talking and really fighting. We can and should talk about techniques, ideas, styles but you should be able to support it. Many people stay “inside” talking about how they are the best but refuse to open their doors and open their minds.
Who is best is determined by fists, not by talk. 3) Master Lü said he is glad to watch the video and he wants to thank both participants. They both did a good thing for CMA. Hopefully people will think hard about what is the future for CMA.
Perhaps turn the soundtrack down unless you’re a Dead Kennedys fan, but this clip of Wudang / Practical Tai Chi shows quite well how Tai Chi postures can be trained realistically to transfer over to more of a free fighting format
People tend to think of Bagua Zhang as being about spinning around in circles and fighting multiple opponents, but what struck me most about this weekend of Yizong Bagua in Paris with Luo De Xiu – one of Tim Cartmell’s main teachers – is that he is teaching a highly sophisticated conceptual martial art that is not only consistent with western boxing (complete with feints, unpredictable footwork, misleading handwork, psychological set ups and all sorts of other practical trickery,)…but is also one in which the underlying concepts are indistinguishable from the body method. Luo said several times that Bagua wasn’t really about teaching his students tricks and techniques, but about getting them to fully embody the art’s concepts so that they can move using large and small circles and spirals at every joint..with the techniques emerging spontaneously out of that. The other thing I hadn’t fully appreciated is just how funny, light-hearted and irreverent Luo is, whether he’s talking about Taoist meditation or throwing someone on their head.
Let’s face it, you wouldn’t put your money on the 59 year old
Maybe it’s time somebody organised an international MMA rules tournament for CMA practitioners…
Great defence of the primary importance of fitness in martial endeavour: “Within the fantasy based martial arts, you wouldn’t find it uncommon to find a “streetfighting” seminar where people talk about tactics, ammunition, and serial killers, and find the room full of obese, camouflage wearing, grossly out of shape, knife carrying paranoids, all actively pretending that their main motive for being there – is to live longer.”
Fluid display of some unusual combinations
This is such a great interview. Brendan Tunks seems to me to have truly bridged the gap between the depths to be found in traditional martial arts and the harsh realities of learning to fight: “You need to find a decent teacher with a good reputation and train as often and as hard as possible. You also need to be in optimal condition. Some CMA people say you don’t need strength or physical conditioning, but should be ‘soft as a feather, yielding as a reed in the wind’ etc. – they are the ones who can’t teach you to fight, so avoid them. Most importantly you need to practice agonistically – i.e. with a non-compliant partner that is attempting to beat you. You need to do this regularly and at a high enough intensity that some risk of injury is present each time…”